Comments on: Goodbye Streamyx, hello DiGi EDGE http://blog.lolyco.com/sean/2008/11/02/goodbye-streamyx-hello-digi-edge/ Working nights with the thief of time Sun, 01 Jan 2012 17:42:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Sean http://blog.lolyco.com/sean/2008/11/02/goodbye-streamyx-hello-digi-edge/comment-page-1/#comment-2828 Sean Tue, 26 May 2009 16:53:54 +0000 http://blog.lolyco.com/sean/?p=174#comment-2828 I'm sorry fernando, I don't have a handy init string for you. I'm travelling at the moment, so several thousand km from my modem. I did happen to setup a friend's old PC with Xubuntu 9.04 a few days ago, and that 'just worked' from the live CD with a USB 3G modem. Perhaps you could ask a friend to burn the CD for you and copy the settings once you get connected? I'm not convinced you'd need a baud rate for ACM0, and certainly not one that low. You've got a space in one of your AT commands. Other than that, I'm all out of suggestions! If you get that same error while connected manually to the modem with a terminal emulator like 'minicom' or 'screen', I'd suspect there's something wrong with the network-specific config of your modem, and you may need to ask your service provider for settings. I’m sorry fernando, I don’t have a handy init string for you. I’m travelling at the moment, so several thousand km from my modem. I did happen to setup a friend’s old PC with Xubuntu 9.04 a few days ago, and that ‘just worked’ from the live CD with a USB 3G modem. Perhaps you could ask a friend to burn the CD for you and copy the settings once you get connected? I’m not convinced you’d need a baud rate for ACM0, and certainly not one that low. You’ve got a space in one of your AT commands. Other than that, I’m all out of suggestions! If you get that same error while connected manually to the modem with a terminal emulator like ‘minicom’ or ‘screen’, I’d suspect there’s something wrong with the network-specific config of your modem, and you may need to ask your service provider for settings.

]]> By: SISMONDA Fernando http://blog.lolyco.com/sean/2008/11/02/goodbye-streamyx-hello-digi-edge/comment-page-1/#comment-2816 SISMONDA Fernando Fri, 22 May 2009 13:24:59 +0000 http://blog.lolyco.com/sean/?p=174#comment-2816 Hi, i'm trying to use this modem with the smstools. Did you made any test with it? If so... My attempts where unsuccessful. I can't connect to the gsm network. My modem configuration on smsd.conf is [GSM1] init = AT init2 = AT V1E0S0=0&D2&C1 device = /dev/ttyACM0 mode = new baudrate = 57600 report = yes And the error on log is GSM1: Error: registration is denied. Do you have the proper init string for the modem? Thanks in advance. Hi, i’m trying to use this modem with the smstools. Did you made any test with it? If so…

My attempts where unsuccessful. I can’t connect to the gsm network.

My modem configuration on smsd.conf is

[GSM1]
init = AT
init2 = AT V1E0S0=0&D2&C1
device = /dev/ttyACM0
mode = new
baudrate = 57600
report = yes

And the error on log is GSM1: Error: registration is denied.

Do you have the proper init string for the modem?

Thanks in advance.

]]> By: Tired of slow Streamyx - Page 3 - Webmaster Malaysia Forum http://blog.lolyco.com/sean/2008/11/02/goodbye-streamyx-hello-digi-edge/comment-page-1/#comment-778 Tired of slow Streamyx - Page 3 - Webmaster Malaysia Forum Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:42:33 +0000 http://blog.lolyco.com/sean/?p=174#comment-778 [...] it always just worked, even if it was slow. I've been using EDGE for a month now, and I like it: Sean [...] it always just worked, even if it was slow. I’ve been using EDGE for a month now, and I like it: Sean

]]> By: tychien http://blog.lolyco.com/sean/2008/11/02/goodbye-streamyx-hello-digi-edge/comment-page-1/#comment-653 tychien Sat, 08 Nov 2008 05:41:46 +0000 http://blog.lolyco.com/sean/?p=174#comment-653 Some people find a proxy server to tunnel through.. Others just have it good and for some reason are able to connect without having any noticeable packet loss. WoW isn't exactly well-known for its unstable connections - it's only well-known for that in MALAYSIA cuz everyone's on Streamyx. *sigh* Problem with using a proxy server to tunnel is that a reliable and consistent proxy server is close to impossible to find. A working one is probably going to last for a few days before going down AT BEST. Some barely last for 20 seconds. Then there's paid proxy servers, but then.. When you have to fork out an extra RM30 a month to 'fix' a problem that we just shouldn't be facing in the first place, it's just wrong. Tracking down the source of the problem isn't that hard.. Anyone can do it. Even when TM has blocked ICMP traceroutes, we can still use other forms of traceroutes to find the bottleneck in the routing to the WoW servers. Tracking down the problem is as simple as "tracert x.x.x.x" in a Windows command prompt for them. It's not about whether they can track it down or not.. It's that they have no reason to do it, since whether they do it or not, I'm STILL stuck with Streamyx. Some people find a proxy server to tunnel through.. Others just have it good and for some reason are able to connect without having any noticeable packet loss. WoW isn’t exactly well-known for its unstable connections – it’s only well-known for that in MALAYSIA cuz everyone’s on Streamyx. *sigh* Problem with using a proxy server to tunnel is that a reliable and consistent proxy server is close to impossible to find. A working one is probably going to last for a few days before going down AT BEST. Some barely last for 20 seconds.
Then there’s paid proxy servers, but then.. When you have to fork out an extra RM30 a month to ‘fix’ a problem that we just shouldn’t be facing in the first place, it’s just wrong.

Tracking down the source of the problem isn’t that hard.. Anyone can do it. Even when TM has blocked ICMP traceroutes, we can still use other forms of traceroutes to find the bottleneck in the routing to the WoW servers. Tracking down the problem is as simple as “tracert x.x.x.x” in a Windows command prompt for them. It’s not about whether they can track it down or not.. It’s that they have no reason to do it, since whether they do it or not, I’m STILL stuck with Streamyx.

]]> By: Sean http://blog.lolyco.com/sean/2008/11/02/goodbye-streamyx-hello-digi-edge/comment-page-1/#comment-652 Sean Sat, 08 Nov 2008 03:57:56 +0000 http://blog.lolyco.com/sean/?p=174#comment-652 When I ping your WoW server, I get 50% packet loss on the Streamyx connection that I still have until the 20th. Using DiGi, it's about 10%. WoW is notorious for unstable connections isn't it? I haven't played, but if there's any real-time 'combat' component in it, like in Tremulous, you wouldn't be able to play it over DiGi. Maybe it's worth asking on local gaming forums how other people in Malaysia find their Streamyx connections for WoW? Maybe TM could track down the source of the problem if there's enough data. Certainly seems like my Streamyx connection has the same problem with pings to WoW. When I ping your WoW server, I get 50% packet loss on the Streamyx connection that I still have until the 20th. Using DiGi, it’s about 10%. WoW is notorious for unstable connections isn’t it? I haven’t played, but if there’s any real-time ‘combat’ component in it, like in Tremulous, you wouldn’t be able to play it over DiGi.

Maybe it’s worth asking on local gaming forums how other people in Malaysia find their Streamyx connections for WoW? Maybe TM could track down the source of the problem if there’s enough data. Certainly seems like my Streamyx connection has the same problem with pings to WoW.

]]> By: tychien http://blog.lolyco.com/sean/2008/11/02/goodbye-streamyx-hello-digi-edge/comment-page-1/#comment-651 tychien Sat, 08 Nov 2008 03:23:24 +0000 http://blog.lolyco.com/sean/?p=174#comment-651 Hmm.. Upon further inspection, it seems that the time listed isn't the average ping time after all.. Oh well. No clue what's happening there Hmm.. Upon further inspection, it seems that the time listed isn’t the average ping time after all.. Oh well. No clue what’s happening there

]]> By: tychien http://blog.lolyco.com/sean/2008/11/02/goodbye-streamyx-hello-digi-edge/comment-page-1/#comment-650 tychien Sat, 08 Nov 2008 02:58:53 +0000 http://blog.lolyco.com/sean/?p=174#comment-650 Well, I use my connection mainly for gaming, so the only thing I'm looking for is line reliability (since, we're comparing this with STREAMYX after all). Look at these ping results to my game's datacenter and it explains itself. Ping statistics for 12.130.0.174: Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 6, Lost = 4 (40% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 313ms, Maximum = 320ms, Average = 315ms The avg ping times are already 315 ms. so it doesn't really get much worse I guess. Then we'll have to look at the packet loss.. 40% packet loss pretty much means that my game turns unplayable. It's been like this for like.. 3 months? A complaint to TM has them calling me back during office hours asking me "Are you at home? Has the problem been rectified? Oh? You can't test this at the moment? We'll just mark this case as solved. If there's any further problems, please feel free to contact us". Get back home and test it out.. Everything's still the fucking same! Complain again.. Same thing happens.. Oh God no.. So just like you, I'm getting desperate. Anyway, ping is a statistic, not a value.. so Average ping times x count != total ping time :D Well, I use my connection mainly for gaming, so the only thing I’m looking for is line reliability (since, we’re comparing this with STREAMYX after all). Look at these ping results to my game’s datacenter and it explains itself.

Ping statistics for 12.130.0.174:
Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 6, Lost = 4 (40% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 313ms, Maximum = 320ms, Average = 315ms

The avg ping times are already 315 ms. so it doesn’t really get much worse I guess. Then we’ll have to look at the packet loss.. 40% packet loss pretty much means that my game turns unplayable. It’s been like this for like.. 3 months? A complaint to TM has them calling me back during office hours asking me “Are you at home? Has the problem been rectified? Oh? You can’t test this at the moment? We’ll just mark this case as solved. If there’s any further problems, please feel free to contact us”. Get back home and test it out.. Everything’s still the fucking same!
Complain again.. Same thing happens.. Oh God no.. So just like you, I’m getting desperate.

Anyway, ping is a statistic, not a value.. so Average ping times x count != total ping time :D

]]> By: Sean http://blog.lolyco.com/sean/2008/11/02/goodbye-streamyx-hello-digi-edge/comment-page-1/#comment-649 Sean Sat, 08 Nov 2008 01:45:19 +0000 http://blog.lolyco.com/sean/?p=174#comment-649 "Viable" depends on your outlook, to be honest. I'm a wireless network hater, and would only ever use one if I was desperate. Streamyx was so bad for me, I became desperate. Having said that (ping examples at foot), it's slow loading pages, compared to Streamyx when it's good. It's fast loading pages when Streamyx is bad. Pages from the US would routinely suffer from timeouts on Streamyx, but that doesn't seem to happen for me on DiGi. Apart from local sites that always loaded near-instantly on Streamyx, I reckon my web pages _finish_ loading earlier on DiGi than they did on Streamyx. I only get about 2-4x dialup speeds (21kB/s MAX on downloads), but it's reliable. I haven't once felt the urge to scream swearwords at my monitor until I can see the veins on the back of my eyes overlaid on everything. The thing I notice most is latency when using a remote terminal. Check the total times on the pings below. The delay for characters to be echoed can be several seconds long sometimes. We have 2 PCs sharing our DiGi connection, and occasionally 3. It's good enough for browsing and email. If we want to watch YouTube videos, we open them up in a tab and watch them later! Pings: times x count != total (I don't know why) PING tremulous.net (208.97.168.42) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from apache2-noxim.selma.dreamhost.com (208.97.168.42): icmp_seq=1 ttl=46 time=559 ms 9 packets transmitted, 9 received, 0% packet loss, time 19399ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 394.528/522.238/681.926/80.795 ms PING google.com (209.85.171.99) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from cg-in-f99.google.com (209.85.171.99): icmp_seq=1 ttl=232 time=622 ms 12 packets transmitted, 12 received, 0% packet loss, time 21533ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 372.866/466.693/622.827/79.004 ms PING exabytes.com.my (210.48.145.168) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from exabytes.com.my (210.48.145.168): icmp_seq=1 ttl=46 time=434 ms 13 packets transmitted, 13 received, 0% packet loss, time 50322ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 196.947/453.570/1356.740/301.930 ms, pipe 2 “Viable” depends on your outlook, to be honest. I’m a wireless network hater, and would only ever use one if I was desperate. Streamyx was so bad for me, I became desperate. Having said that (ping examples at foot), it’s slow loading pages, compared to Streamyx when it’s good. It’s fast loading pages when Streamyx is bad. Pages from the US would routinely suffer from timeouts on Streamyx, but that doesn’t seem to happen for me on DiGi. Apart from local sites that always loaded near-instantly on Streamyx, I reckon my web pages _finish_ loading earlier on DiGi than they did on Streamyx.
I only get about 2-4x dialup speeds (21kB/s MAX on downloads), but it’s reliable. I haven’t once felt the urge to scream swearwords at my monitor until I can see the veins on the back of my eyes overlaid on everything.
The thing I notice most is latency when using a remote terminal. Check the total times on the pings below. The delay for characters to be echoed can be several seconds long sometimes.
We have 2 PCs sharing our DiGi connection, and occasionally 3. It’s good enough for browsing and email. If we want to watch YouTube videos, we open them up in a tab and watch them later!

Pings: times x count != total (I don’t know why)

PING tremulous.net (208.97.168.42) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from apache2-noxim.selma.dreamhost.com (208.97.168.42): icmp_seq=1 ttl=46 time=559 ms
9 packets transmitted, 9 received, 0% packet loss, time 19399ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 394.528/522.238/681.926/80.795 ms

PING google.com (209.85.171.99) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from cg-in-f99.google.com (209.85.171.99): icmp_seq=1 ttl=232 time=622 ms
12 packets transmitted, 12 received, 0% packet loss, time 21533ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 372.866/466.693/622.827/79.004 ms

PING exabytes.com.my (210.48.145.168) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from exabytes.com.my (210.48.145.168): icmp_seq=1 ttl=46 time=434 ms
13 packets transmitted, 13 received, 0% packet loss, time 50322ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 196.947/453.570/1356.740/301.930 ms, pipe 2

]]> By: tychien http://blog.lolyco.com/sean/2008/11/02/goodbye-streamyx-hello-digi-edge/comment-page-1/#comment-647 tychien Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:21:52 +0000 http://blog.lolyco.com/sean/?p=174#comment-647 And also, does Digi impose any restriction on the connection? (e.g. random blocking of ports, throttling, suddenly putting your connection on some crazy dynamic-hair-raising-balls-crushing proxy) And also, does Digi impose any restriction on the connection? (e.g. random blocking of ports, throttling, suddenly putting your connection on some crazy dynamic-hair-raising-balls-crushing proxy)

]]> By: tychien http://blog.lolyco.com/sean/2008/11/02/goodbye-streamyx-hello-digi-edge/comment-page-1/#comment-646 tychien Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:18:03 +0000 http://blog.lolyco.com/sean/?p=174#comment-646 Wow.. I've never imagined DiGi's GPRS/EDGE to be a viable alternative to s***myx. How has your new connection been faring so far? I'd really love to know your average ping times to several popular sites (both overseas and local :D) Please do drop me an e-mail at "tychien99 a.t msn d.o.t com" Wow.. I’ve never imagined DiGi’s GPRS/EDGE to be a viable alternative to s***myx.

How has your new connection been faring so far? I’d really love to know your average ping times to several popular sites (both overseas and local :D )

Please do drop me an e-mail at “tychien99 a.t msn d.o.t com”

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